2. And the list of excuses goes on and on. But if, by the Spirit, ye put to death the doings of the body, ye shall live-Here is a most definite word that the body is under the control of sin; and a most definite statement as to the manner of a holy life. New Testament Commentary Set,), Haldane adds that "No man overcomes the corruptions of his heart but by the influence of the Spirit of God. It could refer to a habitual or established practice. Commentary on Romans 12:3-8 (Read Romans 12:3-8) Pride is a sin in us by nature; we need to be cautioned and armed against it. If they did this, they should live, Romans 8:13. The body would have its every desire gratified-because it so desires. God does not eradicate the believer"s flesh at conversion. (12) We are debtors.—We are under an obligation. So sin can "reign" in our mortal body, that part of us even as believers which is decaying and destined to die. DD. It is one who has not yet made amends to whom he has injured. We will encounter themes in … 10-14 ***** Romans 8:12-18. This is not because some meritorious achievement is required of us as a way of earning such life. New Testament Commentary, Moule, C. G. The Epistle of St Paul to the Romans, Expository Dictionary of Bible Words: Regency, Brown, Colin, Editor. Can any one of these be less than God? But we are bound to live to God, and to follow the leadings of his Spirit, for the end is life and peace; Romans 7:22-23. For instance, the children of Israel were not commanded to take possession of the Promised Land until it was promised to them by God and they were prepared by Him to conquer it. We are not bound to indulge them because the end of such indulgence is death and ruin; Romans 7:21-22. (Morris, L. The Epistle to the Romans. (1 Corinthians 9:24-27-note) (See John Piper's sermon series on "Olympic Spirituality: Part One: Beyond the Gold Part Two - How Shall We Run? But we have no such obligation to our human nature. But if on the other hand you cut the nerve of your instinctive actions by obeying the Spirit, you are on the way to real living. ], so particularly in that before us; which is a conclusion from very important premises. R omans 8 is a much loved chapter of the Bible. What you do is your put yourself up under the Spirit and you learn to obey what He says to do. https:https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/dun/romans-8.html. Many things are good, but only one thing is best, and that's to be saved from hell. “Therefore,” as the apostle continues, “if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die.” If you have persuaded yourselves that you must owe to the flesh the happiness you wish for, and if, acting under this impression, that you are “debtors to the flesh,” you determine to “live after the flesh,” death will soon come and put an end to all these dreams you have been cherishing; but long before death comes to chill your mirth, long before those rosebuds are withered with which you have been crowning yourselves, a deadness of heart shall come over you, a deadness to all spiritual things, which shall be the pledge and token of eternal death. Romans 8:12. Saul partially obeyed God's directive, but Samuel obeyed it to the letter by killing King Agag. https:https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/acc/romans-8.html. On the other side in Christ are those who are as a habit of life by the Spirit putting to death the deeds of the body. How many Christians are deluded into thinking that if they just go to a "higher life" or "deeper life" or "exchanged life", etc, etc, conference, that they will be "zapped" by the speaker or the material and they will emerge a spiritually mature believer? (1)From the fact that the Spirit dwells in us; (2)Because the design of his indwelling is to purify us; (3)Because we are thus recovered from the death of sin to the life of religion; and he who has imparted life, has a right to require that it be spent in his service. It is not something that we can do once and for all and be done with. The Greeks had both financial and, later, moral obligations in mind when they used this term. As they enter the area of Caesarea Philippi, Jesus asks his disciples two questions. By Dr. Leighton Flowers. Paul is teaching that it is mandatory that the Spirit must have us! and gradually be killing our sins, a process never completed in this life. 6 For it is on account of these things that the wrath of God will come. We are debtors; but the flesh is not our creditor. All the powers of his soul-life (which include his intellect, tastes, feelings, emotions, and recollective memory) are renewed. If he does not come to Christ in true faith, he must die the second death under God’s final judgment. As this is its nature, and believers are no longer in the flesh, but in the Spirit, they are under the strongest obligations not to live after the one, but after the other. (Col 2:10) Thereafter, for the rest of our mortal life on earth, we will be working out our salvation (Php 2:12+) and only when we fall asleep in Jesus or Jesus returns (either of which will take us into eternal glory) will we be "brought to full salvation" in the strictest sense. Wayne Barber amplifies the meaning and practical significance of the believer's new freedom in Christ writing that…, WE ARE FREE IN CHRIST FROM THE COERCION OF THE FLESH. The word opheiletes, describes a person in debt; for Paul in Ro 1:14 it is divine obligation according to his calling; in Ro 15:27 it is the Gentiles’ material obligation to Jerusalem for their spiritual inheritance; in Gal. Therefore, brethren, &c.— After the Apostle has separately and distinctly shewn how the affair ofsanctification or obligation to piety and holiness stands under the Gospel, both with regard to Jews and Gentiles, he seems here to address himself to both conjointly. The venerable British preacher Dr Martyn Lloyd-Jones said the following regarding the crucial importance of Romans 8:13 - "These are the crucial verses with regard to this old problem around which there is and has been for a number of years a good deal of controversy." BibliographyExell, Joseph S. "Commentary on "Romans 8:12". Romans 8 concludes the second main section of the body of the letter, ‘Living under grace’. Let us cast up our reckonings and see what we have expended answerable to what we have received. To live continually according to the flesh is to be completely ruled and controlled by that evil complex. All those who have now a foretaste of this blessedness, or the first fruits of the Spirit, as joining in this sense of present wretchedness, and earnest desire of the future good, Romans 8:23. Dr Barber goes on to illustrate his point with a class on dieting at one the churches he pastored…. BibliographyTorrey, R. A. How then? “We are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. William Newell has some sobering thoughts…, (1) It is one of the great red lights by which God keeps His elect out of fatal paths. There is therefore now no condemnation: The simple declaration of no condemnation comes to those who are in Christ Jesus. You get filled with the Holy Spirit and you get run down and you get filled up again and you get run down. Paul goes on to explain that to be indebted to the flesh means “to live according to the flesh”. (C. H. To the Son. Don't lose this truth. “The life which I now live in the flesh,” Paul tells the Galatians, “I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me” (Gal. The word "OBLIGATION" is the same one he used in Romans 1:14 when he said, "I am UNDER OBLIGATION both to Greeks and to barbarians, both to the wise and to the foolish." It turns everything to gold. Hence he infers the obligation to live according, to the Spirit, and to mortify the deeds of the body, Romans 8:12. But can a believer live in a fleshly manner, temporarily under the power of the the flesh? The first clause here is a figure of speech called meiosis, a vast understatement for the sake of emphasis. What Paul will teach in these next two verses is that privilege is associated with responsibility. In Ephesians Paul first gives three chapters explaining "every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ" (see sermon note ) Then just before his beautiful doxology at the end of chapter 3 Paul prays, that He would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man; so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; and that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled up to all the fulness of God. 2. (Moule, C. G. The Epistle of St Paul to the Romans). 1835. What God requires of believers can only be accomplished by the Holy Spirit Who indwells us. loans, debts, sums, or rents. https:https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/gsb/romans-8.html. Not a good position to be in spiritually speaking! Just as the train moves forward as long it stays in contact with the third rail, even so your spiritual life moves forward as you stay in constant contact with the Holy Spirit. More than anything else the … Abilene Christian University Press, Abilene, Texas, USA. In the original it is "Let not sin king it over you." The "even so" of Romans 6:11 points back to the glorious truth in Romans 6:1-11, truths that declare we been crucified, buried and risen with Christ and now are in Christ. (NLT - Tyndale House), Phillips: So then, my brothers, you can see that we have no particular reason to feel grateful to our sensual nature, or to live life on the level of the instincts. Why should we feel obligated to such an enemy? BibliographyNicol, W. Robertson, M.A., L.L.D. 37:32; 44:22; 59:1; 79:11; 102:20; 109:16; Eccl. Remember what happens when you put a "law" or "rule" over the flesh? How unmindful are even good people of their duty and interest!—, [The best of men find it difficult to “keep under their bodies;” and there are seasons when they are apt to yield to sloth or sensual indulgence: but let all remember their obligations and professions, and labour rather to pay what they owe to the Spirit.]. Every new performance is a preparation and disposition to another. Why? Finding the new version too difficult to understand? BibliographyCoffman, James Burton. (MacArthur, J: Romans 1-8. The life that is now set before the believer is the life of eternity that is to be lived in time. The truth is that we have already spent too much time living according to the flesh (before we were born again), Peter writing that now believers are "to live the rest of the time in the flesh (here Peter uses flesh not to refer to the evil disposition but the "flesh and blood" aspect of flesh) no longer for the lusts of men, but for the will of God. Thus this indwelling Spirit is a “mighty Spirit” in terms of our present interim pilgrimage (Eph. And we don’t owe it anything. One millstone will sink a man into the sea—as well as a hundred! 1. It is God’s gift from start to finish. Continuously and uncompromisingly removing sin resulting in a conscience free from guilt is what the process entails." You've got to let the Spirit be in control of your life by constantly surrendering to Him. Matthew Henry adds that "We are not debtors to the flesh, neither by relation, gratitude, nor any other bond or obligation. First, as the beginner and worker of all grace in him. In other words they say Paul is not speaking about our quality of living in our earthly bodies but is only referring to our future life with God in eternity. There is no man, whoever he be, but he is behind hand, as I may say, to the spirit in this respect. Not just physical death but spiritual death culminating in eternal confinement to the Lake of Fire resulting in eternal separation from his or her Creator God (see  Notes Second Death,  notes Revelation 20:11-15,  Chart on Births, Deaths, and Resurrections, or  What is the second death? One disease is enough to kill. "Commentary on Romans 8:12". "... but to God, to live according to the Spirit." But there is certainly a strong note of warning. Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?” (Ro 1:32-note; Ro 2:17-note; Ro 2:21-note, Ro 2:22-note, Ro 2:23-note, Ro 2:24-note) What! And the result? This shows that the sanctification of the believer is progressive. bondage of corruption. A debtor to mercy alone Be killing sin or it will be killing you. God says "Put these things to death"! Or, he is to “crucify the flesh with its passions and desires” (Gal. W. B. Eerdmans; Inter-Varsity Press), As Moule says "For a moment he turns to say what we owe “no” debt to even “the flesh,” the self-life. First, for the Creditor: the Spirit. 3. Cf. 1905. 12. ἄρα οὖν covers the whole argument from Romans 8:12 and proceeds to conclusions as to Christian conduct; but this purpose is interrupted by the thought of the Spirit and the wide bearings of the relation of sonship to GOD. Significantly, there is no relaxation of moral requirements for those who are in Christ. We look forward to it." These are really debtors, and confess themselves to be debtors, as often as they declare that it is not in their power to live spiritually.—V. In this verse Paul is making it clear that we are no longer UNDER OBLIGATION to the FLESH. = as the Spirit enables you to present) yourselves to God as those alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. Flesh has never done one thing GOOD for us. The work of the Spirit is not, and never was designed to be, a substitute for the personal work of the believer. PRESENT YOUR BODIES A LIVING SACRIFICE. We need to acknowledge the sense of our own inadequacy and of His all sufficient adequacy (cp 2Cor 3:5-6, 2Cor 12:9-10). But those who have passed out of death and into life are living the life of eternity within the confines of time, even though not all who have received life understand what has happened to them and what the possibilities of that life are right now. (Morris, L. The Epistle to the Romans. Is not the very intent of his mercies to bring us rather to live after the Spirit? Faith is the key! We are debtors--. Romans 8:12: “So t h en, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh—” Paul breaks off in mid-sentence, leaving us to supply the implied second half, that we are under obligation to the Lord. One sin lived in, may shut you out of heaven! Thirdly, as our Comforter in afflictions: we are debtors to the Spirit thus. If a man is guilty of only one of these—he is a transgressor. It was the same soldier, but he had a different weapon. But in the case of the believing poor, their claim upon us is far more binding. (see note Romans 8:2), What Paul is setting before his readers is very similar in intent to what God said through Moses to Israel (except of course they did not possess the indwelling Spirit as believers today do)…, See, I have set before you today life and prosperity, and death and adversity… So choose life in order that you may live, you and your descendants (Deut 30:15, 19b). All the saints make up one body in Christ, who is the Head of the body, and the common Centre of their unity. The idea conveyed by κατὰ σάρκα ζῆν is that of being alive (contrast to dying) according to the rule and standard of σάρξ, so that σάρξ is the regulative principle. 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Romans 8:12 So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh-- 13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. Take care that you pay your debts before you spend money upon your pleasures. They talk about going to Heaven or to Hell as if the whole matter of eternal existence were something alien to our present experience. (Expository Dictionary of Bible Words: Regency). By abstaining (continually = present tense) from "from fleshly lusts, which wage war against the soul" (1Pe 2:11-see notes 1Pe 2:11), Puritan John Owen in his discussion of Romans 8:13 (he wrote an entire book on Romans 8:13! Not (Romans 8:12) to the flesh, to live according to it: to it they owe nothing. Not (3756) (ou) defines absolute negation. Those walking as a lifestyle according to the flesh receive death but those walking according to the Spirit experience life and peace. We should note, moreover, τῇ σαρκὶ with the article (personified), and κατὰ σάρκα without it (qualitative), Romans 8:5. Ophelon, originally an aorist participle of opheilo with the addition of estin (is), became the set expression for the optative “O, that”, “would that”, “if only” (cf. BibliographyBullinger, Ethelbert William. "Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers". One sin is a pirate—to rob a Christian of his comfort. (Thru the Bible Commentary), MacDonald echoes these thoughts writing that the flesh is nothing but "The old, evil, corrupt nature has been nothing but a drag. ), lest possibly, after I have preached to others, I myself should be disqualified (adokimos [see bema] = means to test and find not passing the test. https:https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/cpc/romans-8.html. Some have taught falsely that perfection is attainable in this life, but that is absolutely NOT biblical. It makes the debtor’s heart glow with thankfulness and honest pride to see the grace, the love, the gentle patient fellowship of the Spirit which make him such a debtor. We are debtors yes, but NOT TO THE FLESH. And it infinitely transcends the mightiest puttings forth of creative power. Heinrich Meyer's Critical and Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament. Romans 8:16 Parallel Verses [⇓ See commentary ⇓] Romans 8:16, NIV: "The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children." . Romans 8:2, ESV: "For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death." A similar pattern of first a description of the believers position and possessions in Christ and then the call to put this truth into practice in the power of the Spirit is seen in the parallel epistle of Colossians (Col 1-2 = Doctrine; Col 3-4 = Duty). It increases when we receive the full endowment of the Holy Ghost. Why? How mistaken are the world in their course of life!—, [The generality live as if they had nothing to do but to consult the flesh; and when exhorted to mind the concerns of their souls, reply immediately, “I must attend to the interests of my body.” But in thus opposing the declaration in the text, they will ruin their bodies as well as their souls for ever. He that committeth sin is the servant of sin, so says our Saviour. The things owed may be spiritual, and the word is also used with the infinitive for “to be under obligation to,” “to have to.” The word is common in respect of revenge or law. The old, sinful nature may present its desires, even its demands, based upon our past, but we are now under no obligation to cooperate! Some would twist John's straightforward teaching, saying it means something else. Particular Direction #2: Get A Clear Sense of the Guilt of Sin, 12. (Romans 8: Expository Notes Verse by Verse), Beet explains that "put to death" is "a bold personification: a close parallel in [Col 3:5-see note Col 3:5]. I owe nothing to the past, future, rich, poor, compared with what I owe to my God. What are we to do with it? In the immediately preceding context Paul clearly was contrasting two radically different lifestyles - on one side, those in Adam and on the other, those in Christ. Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. Power in the Christian Life Depends on Mortification, 8. Under obligation (3781) (opheiletes from opheilo = owe, conveying the basic meaning of owing a debt) means one who owes another (of one who owes another money) having a strong moral obligation and personal duty) means a debtor, one who is bound by some duty, one who owes anything to another. "Commentary on Romans 8:12". 1. Here are my notes… Paul's point then is that those SINFUL PASSIONS that we had while we were IN ADAM are still present in our mortal body. It is because the two are incompatible. https:https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/geb/romans-8.html. Then it showed what happened to that soldier's odds when the bazooka (a rocket launcher) was invented. "When I get up in the morning and wonder what my biggest problem for the day is going to be, I quickly realize that I'm looking at him in the mirror!" And so now I have done with the first general part of the text, which is the negative in that which is expressed, “We are not debtors to the flesh, to live after the flesh.” The second is the affirmative, as that which is implied. A. If we all believed this, how much easier it would be to get our Churches into good order! (Collected writings of W. E. Vine) (Bolding added). In the spiritual body, some are fitted for and called to one sort of work; others for another sort of work. https:https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/bcc/romans-8.html. A godly man considers the mischief which one sin lived in, will do. In Ro 6;12-note we hear: "Let not Sin reign in your mortal body that ye should obey the desires of it" (the body). Particular Direction #1: Consider Dangerous Symptoms Attending Sin, 11. But it is as it were to fight against God, when we extinguish the grace offered to us, by contempt and negligence. Those who cling to the dogma of “once saved, always saved” deny this, of course." To whomsoever we are debtors, we are not (in this extent at least) debtors to the flesh. Neglect this process of repression, and the briar may make shoots below the graft; and as these shoots develop themselves the rose nature begins to lose ground, and suffers in foliage and flower, until, if the process be only allowed to go far enough, the rose is extinguished, the old briar is supreme. The key to freedom from what we were is constant reliance on the active presence of the Spirit. 5:1-11 Suffering with assurance of future glory. The important truth Paul brings out with the use of the present tense is that believers are no longer those who live continually under the dominion of the evil flesh nature. The obligation due to the body. The flesh loves to boast about its religious achievements - how many prayers were offered, or how many gifts were given. With me can have nothing to do Secular and sacral penalties are owed. Introduction A. We are debtors to the body to satisfy its wants, but not to the flesh to gratify its lusts (Romans 13:14). An opheiletes is (a) a debtor (Plato, Leg. ATTENTIVE LISTENING TO THE TEXT: ROMANS 8 Context and Structure: Romans 8 and Romans 5. They are, - and if we are Christ's our bodies are members of Christ (1Cor 6:15). John MacArthur points out that "It is significant that the Holy Spirit is mentioned only once in the introduction to the epistle (1:4, “the spirit of holiness”), then not mentioned again until Romans 8:1. The voice of the fallen flesh deceives one into thinking that the flesh offers "real life" (like the commercials "grab all the gusto you can get!" It cannot compel us to do anything unless we so choose. 5-8. Therefore it is not we that are debtors to it, but it is it, indeed, rather that is a debtor to us, in all those fair promises which it hath some time made unto us, whilst it has performed none. 2 For the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus has freed you from the law of sin and death. Sin is still potent, and success against it demands the Spirit’s power.). I. The FLESH will rise up and potentially eat everything in site. When your mind is set on the things of the Spirit (see note Ro 8:6), you will find it much "easier" to not make plans on how you might commit the sins that the strong desires in your FLESH are crying out for you to commit. Such debtors as are not careful to pay, there is nobody will trust them with any more. Believers as Paul has already explained are those who order their behavior in such a way that it is not dominated by the evil nature, but by the Holy Spirit (Ro 8:4, 5, 6- see notes Ro 8:4, 5, 6). Seeing we are not in the flesh, but have the Spirit of God dwelling in us; not only sanctifying and enlivening our souls for the present, but raising and quickening our bodies for the time to come; therefore we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh; i.e. What will it force you to do, that is if you want to be edified?!) But in Galatians 5:3 Paul couples it with the simple infinitive; as in Soph. So yes we OWE A DEBT, and that debt is to surrender to the Spirit of God moment by moment. But we have them all “for Him.” We are free from the law of sin and of death; but we are in perpetual and delightful debt to Him who has freed us. There is life in the Spirit of adoption, Ro 8;12-17. Secondly, we are engaged to the Spirit, not only as the first beginner, but also as the further increaser of those graces in us which are begun. Commentaries on Romans. The bill that you want from me has been PAID IN FULL by Christ on the Cross and I don't owe you anything. On the contrary, the surrendered saint immediately finds His faculties marvelously quickened, -his faculties both of mind and of sensibility. A second γάρ. The Lord will not do it all for us apart from ourselves. However, the recipients are by no means represented as being able to act independently. What a scorpion lies within!" (Jack Cottrell, PhD, Cincinnati Bible Seminary). Kill the Goliath sin! We have to make up our mind that we will not just take a little "R & R" dealing with Sin. https:https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/fam/romans-8.html. 1840-57. But does the warning here imply the possibility of defection? "The Bible Study New Testament". (Read his entire message including his discussion of "Three Faulty Ways to Live the Christian Life"). The difficulty of the obligation. “Then, therefore, brethren, we are debtors not to the flesh to live after the flesh. Their solemnity corresponds to the seriousness of the action in the “if” clauses. We are to put to death the evil deeds of the body, not make excuses for our failure to do so. One sin lived in, prevents Christ from entering. Watch (you MUST watch the video - Piper uses a technique to mark the Scripture which adds to the teaching value of HOW we BY THE SPIRIT kill sin!) Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers (13) ... Romans 8:13. But when you keep your focus on the cross ("the word of the Cross…to us who are being saved it is the power of God." 8. 3. Life in the Spirit contrasted with life in the flesh. Only misery and death aver to be reaped from it (Galatians 6:8). So Paul says in essence make up your mind that Sin will not reign. 6:31; 9:54; 13:23; 15:13; 16:30; 20:13; 21:5; 1Sa 2:6; 5:10f; 11:12; 14:45; 17:35, 51; 19:1f, 5, 11, 15, 17; 20:8, 33; 22:17f, 21; 24:7; 28:9; 30:2, 15; 2Sa 1:9f, 16; 3:30, 37; 4:7; 8:2; 13:28, 32; 14:6f, 32; 18:15; 19:21f; 20:19; 21:1, 4, 9, 17; 22:41; 1 Ki. In verse 25 Paul emphasises again his moral struggle, which he described in verses 14-24. (Gal 5:16, 17, 18-see notes Galatians 5:16; 17; 18), A Debtor to Mercy "Commentary on Romans 8:12". The obligations of sonship, Romans 8:12-13. That's the mark of a believer, who will live forever. First, in the realm of Scripture knowledge, we are to yield to the truth lodged in the mind concerning the Spirit’s dominion. That is not what Paul is teaching in this passage. https:https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/hal/romans-8.html. He is not telling them to mutilate themselves or live monastic lives or anything of the sort. That context is that all people, whether Jew or Gentile have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). It is one thing to be CONTROLLED and another to be COERCED. My Savior’s obedience and blood What is it that produces the standard rose? 1905-1909. “Set faith at work for the killing of thy sin. Therefore a new allegiance is incumbent upon the child of God, in two realms. 2. The justifying work of God has been done and the resurrection life of Christ has become our life. "debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh"-"we owe nothing to" (TCNT); "we owe a duty--but it is not to the flesh!" A Access (Romans 5:1-11) – The benefits of justification "Commentary on Romans 8:12". 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